Posted by: shannynmoore | August 11, 2009

Keith Olbermann vs Sarah “Death Panel” Palin

On a not so good, very bad day for Palin, Keith Olbermann calls her out…


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  1. I’m always a fan of liberals showing their love of tolerance and acceptance of diversity in thought.

    • While some may view outright lies and deliberate misinterpretation of fact as a differing viewpoint and want to tolerate that stance, most rational thinking people prefer truth over lies, and are willing to call a spade a spade when it comes right down to it. She tried very quickly to backtrack her statement when it was shown to be not only an outright lie, but a deliberate one at that, and attempted to soften her tone, but as has been said, it’s too little, too late.

      Sarah Palin has no problem with skewing “facts” to promote herself and her agenda, and I for one am glad that people are now not only opening their eyes to that truth, but are willing to call her out on it immediately and very publicly.

  2. Oh, you mean like when people were called traitors for opposing an idiotic, ill-advised war? That kind of tolerance and acceptance of adversity?

    Shut the fuck up.

    • ooooooooooo I like the way you think!

  3. Hate speech and lies do not constitute “diversity” in the real world, Dingman.

  4. Olbermann has pointed out the obvious but will people listen. Sarah Palin, Glen Beck. and others like them, have been inciting citizens to violent thought (and actions) for some time. If the US had stronger laws about spewing hate-speech that has the potential to incite violent behavior, they would be arrested. Free Speech is a valued right under our Bill of Rights but there are certain responsibilities that come with it–especially for those people who are considered leaders. Sarah Palin has again demonstrated her total lack of integrity and leadership acumen, this time, more than ever, with the possibility of dangerous consequences.

  5. Olbermann got it right. Palin again let her mouth run without putting whatever passes for a brain (for her…) into gear.

  6. excerpt form an important piece at ALTERNET:

    It’s so easy right now to look at the melee on the right and discount it as pure political theater of the most absurdly ridiculous kind. It’s a freaking puppet show. These people can’t be serious. Sure, they’re angry — but they’re also a minority, out of power and reduced to throwing tantrums. Grown-ups need to worry about them about as much as you’d worry about a furious five-year-old threatening to hold her breath until she turned blue.

    Unfortunately, all the noise and bluster actually obscures the danger. These people are as serious as a lynch mob, and have already taken the first steps toward becoming one. And they’re going to walk taller and louder and prouder now that their bumbling efforts at civil disobedience are being committed with the full sanction and support of the country’s most powerful people, who are cynically using them in a last-ditch effort to save their own places of profit and prestige.

    http://www.alternet.org/story/141819/

  7. ~~~~~~~~~~~~PALIN’S OWN ALASKAN DEATH CAMP OF ELDERLY AND DISABLED~~ ~~~~~~~~~~

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~Palin ran her own “death panel” in Alaska~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~

    July 15/2009

    Lisa Demer of the Anchorage Daily News has broken a story that adds another scandal to the growing list of scandals that have plagued this administration, and shines the light on Alaska’s very own health care crisis.

    Demer’s story centers on the horrendous condition of the Alaska’s state programs that are designed to help its most vulnerable citizens, the elderly and disabled.

    The situation is so bad the federal government has forbidden the state to sign up new people until the state makes necessary improvements. [snip]

    The moratorium is expected to last four or five months. State officials estimate about 1,000 Alaskans will be affected.

    A particularly alarming finding concerns deaths of adults in the programs. In one 2 1/2 year stretch, 227 adults already getting services died while waiting for a nurse to reassess their needs.

    Another 27 died waiting for their initial assessment, to see if they qualified for help.

    No other state in the nation is under such a moratorium, according to a spokeswoman for the federal Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services.

    There are currently eight lawsuits pending against the state which also rang alarm bells on the federal level.

    Doctors and other health care providers wrote to the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid with concerns that the state wasn’t responsive. Some alleged that the lack of state controls “has resulted in the death(s) of the active clients,” the federal review said.

    While the people served are frail and suffer from chronic health issues, the state never investigated to determine if any failure in service contributed to the deaths, the federal review found.

    “Thus, if someone passed away because a (personal care assistant) did not show up, for example, there was no indication this would have been reported or investigated,” the report said.

    The state plans to start doing fatality reviews.

    The state plans to start doing fatality reviews?

    So, it would appear, since we are the only state where the situation is bad enough to require federal intervention that the administration has had its mind on other things. We know, of course, that the governor has been busy with her farewell tour, flying all over the state and signing bills and doing little shout outs and quotes of the day on her twitter account, and getting ready to become a full-time celebrity.

    But what about health? What have been, and what currently are the administrations top priorities on matters of health and human services? It’s obviously not the care and well-being of our vulnerable seniors, so what is it?

    The administration is spending an awful lot of time on the upcoming ballot initiative that will address parental notice and consent for anyone under the age of 18 who is seeking to terminate a pregnancy. Here is the initiative language with recent changes in language underlined. parental20involvement20initiative1

    Two years ago, the Alaska Supreme Court on a 3-2 ruling said that a parental consent law was unconstitutional because it transferred the right to make such an important decision to a parent or a judge. They also stated that a parental notification law, however, might be constitutional.

    Although she stated she’d like to take this on personally, Palin, under the advice of her attorney, took a step back.

    “I got a preliminary opinion from Law (Department) just giving me a heads up that critics would certainly file an ethics charge against me if I were to sponsor an initiative,” she said. “So though I maintain I have First Amendment rights just as any other citizen does, I won’t flirt with the notion of giving critics more ammunition to keep filing wasteful ethics charges against me, but instead I’ll volunteer to be the first signature.”

    There go those critics again, demanding ethics. And there goes the governor again, not quite understanding the first amendment, or the ethics act.

    Planned Parenthood, recognizing that a girl who doesn’t want to tell her parents she’s pregnant, or fill out paperwork to get time off from school to go stand before a judge in superior court and convince him or her that she is mature and intelligent enough to make decisions about her own reproductive health, might just take the situation in to her own hands.

    Girls researching self-induced abortion on the Internet could find all kinds of bad advice, said Clover Simon, Executive Director of Planned Parenthood.

    In the week prior to Sarah Palin’s hurried announcement that she’d be stepping down as the governor of the state, a new scandal was brewing on the horizon. It didn’t get as much publicity as some of the other numerous Palin scandals, in part because everyone became preoccupied with her resignation.

    The fact that a frightened teen who doesn’t want to become a parent might do what others have done and just try to Google her way out of her predicament may have crossed the mind of Beverly Wooley, the state’s public health director, who was scheduled to appear before the legislature on this issue. She stated, earlier this month that she was forced out of her position, largely due to differences between her and the governor on the parental involvement issue.

    And while Palin says she “will not hesitate to speak up in support of Alaska’s daughers,” her concern does not seem to extend to Alaska’s daughters whose parents are literally dying from neglect because of budget cuts and mismanagement. The “culture of life” seems to have an expiration date that our seniors have passed. And left out are Alaska’s daughters who will choose not to talk to their parents, and take matters in to their own hands rather than submit to the emotional stress, embarrassment and legal wranglings of convincing a judge that they were abused, or the victim of incest, or just not ready to be a parent.

    http://www.themudflats.net/2009/07/15/palins-health-care-priorities-and-alaskas-daughters/

  8. This is a brilliant piece. My only fear is that Keith’s insights and vocabulary are way over the heads of the people being manipulated by these entities.

    • So is See Spot Run….

  9. Palin’s #1 priority in health care is to prevent abortion and promote abstinence only.

    Country Teenage birth rate per 1000 women 15-19 2002

    South Korea 3
    Japan 4
    Switzerland 5
    Netherlands 5
    China 5
    Spain 6
    Singapore 6
    Italy 6
    Sweden 7
    Denmark 7
    Slovenia 8
    Finland 8
    Luxembourg 9
    France 9
    Belgium 9
    Greece 10
    Cyprus 10
    Norway 11
    Germany 11
    Malta 12
    Austria 12
    Ireland 15
    Poland 16
    Canada 16
    Australia 16
    Albania 16
    Portugal 17
    Israel 17
    Czech Republic 17
    Iceland 19
    Croatia 19
    United Kingdom 20
    Hungary 21
    Bosnia and Herzegovina 23
    Slovakia 24
    Latvia 24
    Lithuania 26
    Estonia 26
    New Zealand 27
    Belarus 27
    Russia 30
    Georgia 33
    Macedonia 34
    Armenia 34
    Romania 37
    Ukraine 38
    Saudi Arabia 38
    Bulgaria 41
    Chile 44
    Brazil 45

    United States 53

    Indonesia 55
    Mexico 64
    South Africa 66
    India 73
    Nigeria 103
    Niger 233

    The teenage birth rate in United States was 53 births per 1,000 women aged 15–19 in 2002[3], the highest in the developed world.[6] If all pregnancies, including those which end in abortion or miscarriage, are taken into account, then the total rate in 2000 was 75.4

    In the United States the topic of sex education is the subject of much contentious debate. Some schools provide “abstinence-only” education and virginity pledges are increasingly popular.

    A 2004 study by Yale and Columbia Universities found that fully………. 88 percent of those who pledge abstinence have premarital sex anyway………

    The Dutch approach to preventing teenage pregnancy has often been seen as a model by other countries.

    The curriculum focuses on values, attitudes, communication and negotiation skills, as well as biological aspects of reproduction.

    The media encouraged open dialogue and the health-care system guarantees confidentiality and a non-judgmental approach.

    wikipedia.org

    OTHER FACTS ABOUT ALASKA

    January 9th, 2009

    Other factors include the escalating cost of some types of birth control and their unavailability in some communities, said Stephanie Birch, who directs maternal and child health programs for the Alaska Department of Health and Social Services.

    Other Alaska statistics about 2006 from the 102-page report include:

    • The birth rate for Alaska females aged 15-17 was 19.2 per 1,000. The rate for those ages 18 and 19 was 92.7 per 1,000. The comparable national averages were 22 and 73.

    • The average age of a Alaskan mother giving birth to her first child was 24.3 years in 2006. That compares with a U.S. average of 25 years old.

    • The state had 10,996 births in 2006. Only North Dakota, Wyoming and Vermont mothers gave birth to fewer babies. In 4,047 of the births the mother was not married.

    • 81.1 percent of Alaskan mothers began their prenatal care during the first trimester of their pregnancy, compared with 83 percent nationally.

    • 23 percent of Alaska births were by cesarean delivery, with only Idaho and Utah having a lower cesarean rate. The U.S. average was 31 percent.

    • 6 percent of Alaska babies had a low birth weight, the smallest percentage in the country. Low birth weight is considered less than 5 pounds 8 ounces.

    http://www.adn.com/189/story/647229.html
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The rate for those ages 18 and 19 was 92.7 per 1,000. The comparable national averages were 22 and 73.

    This updated number is worse than any third world country!

  10. Kieth Olberman did a GREAT job last night………….but so did John Stewart:

    Jon Stewart Vs. Town Hall Crazies (VIDEO)

    Huffington Post | Alex Leo

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/11/jon-stewart-vs-town-hall_n_256272.html

    Jon Stewart took on these town hall uprisings and their leaders last night in two segments, the first focusing on the media hypocrisy over the coverage of these events, and the second mocking the “death panel” debate.

  11. shame on those elite media-types keepin’ it REAL!😀

  12. Olbermann’s Special Comments are always great but this one was special.

  13. Thankfully, even $P can’t unring a bell.

  14. Nice Porn Shannyn….I am moaning loadly LOL

  15. Please sign this petition to have paid health care removed from our representatives in Congress until such time as they reform health care – to include a strong public option – for ‘we the people’ who they are supposed to represent. Then spread the word to anyone and everyone you know!

    http://www.petitiononline.com/PubOp676/petition.html

  16. Great comments by Keith Olberman. Thank goodness there are people like him and Rachel Maddox who tell it like it is and use facts when making comments.
    Scarah needs to quit saying anything, she is ignorant of the facts and simply wants to incite.
    I pray nothing serious happens as a result of her, Beck’s and Limpballs lunatic ravings.

  17. checquoline
    wrote on 08/11/2009 06:44:08 AM:
    There is nothing Sarah won’t say if she is paid to say it.
    from ADN comments…….wow Palin is a word hooker?

    • That’s why she’s perfected “word salad” – she is paid by the word.

    • Nah………………She’s just a ” fake slutty flight attendant”…

  18. Oh Shannyn, wasn’t Keith great! Only Keith can take people down with all that passion. That’s what makes me love him so much!
    And………..I’m just biding m time until you get a show at MSNBC. They need to get rid of Joe the Scaborough and Mika and a few others. They definitely need to force Pat Pukechanon into retirement, it’s long over due. Then you could start off where Pat leaves off, as a regular commentator. You’d be great! We need another good progressive voice in the MSM. We don’t have nearly enough. When will they learn?

  19. What Republicans Say….

    What Republicans say:
    “Family values”
    What they mean:
    “I value my family; to hell with yours.”

    What Republicans say:
    “Personal responsibility”
    What they mean:
    “Rich people are responsible; if you’re poor, it must be because you’re irresponsible.”

    What Republicans say:
    “Fiscal responsibility”
    What they mean:
    “Obliterating the budget with war and tax breaks”

    What Republicans say:
    “Fair and balanced”
    What they mean:
    “Biased in my favor”

    What Republicans say:
    “Pro-life”
    What they mean:
    “Human life is valuable and ought to be protected before birth (unless it’s in China, because, after all, we like our Walmart crap to be really cheap); after that, it’s your own damn problem. Unless you’re terminally ill and want to die; then you have to live. Oh, and except if you commit a crime, even if you’re not yet of legal age. Then it’s death for you.”

    What Republicans say:
    “Spreading Democracy”
    What they mean:
    “Colonialism”

    What Republicans say:
    “Our allies abroad”
    What they mean:
    “Communist China (the West’s great-big sweat shop which has reportedly forced women into abortions) and Saudi Arabia, an Islamic Monarchy”

    What Republicans say:
    “Border security”
    What they mean:
    “We need to find a way to allow just enough Mexican pseudo-slaves in here without giving them any sort of legal status.”

    What Republicans say about healthcare:
    “Protecting choice and freedom”
    What they mean:
    “Protecting my choice and freedom to make sure you’re denied care.”

  20. Recall before I said that Palin is running out of gimmicks to get media attention and the only way she could continue to do that would be to do or say something more bizarre each time.

    I say this because the only activity Palin engages in all day and night is to think of ways to draw attention to herself. This is akin to a heroin addict spending his days and nights looking for the next fix, and if not wealthy, taking steps to finance the habit.

    Evidence of Palin’s style and method was evident in the Letterman dispute that she fabricated. I remind people to look at her YouTube, in the Matt Lauer interview where Palin is all smiles and squirming in joy to once again be in front of the camera. The one thing Palin did not look like was a concerned mother. Nope, that was a bunch of feigned outrage.

    Palin knows she has to stay in the spotlight so that she does not fade away by the time her book is finished next year. (Sidenote: it takes a long time to fabricate 300 pages of lies, fabrications, exaggerations and fantasy. Mainly, it’s time consuming to have the stories on page ten conform to the ones on page 100, and both those to fact check with the whopper on page 250.)

    So here we are in August, she is feeling desperate. She is losing sleep at night over no longer getting fact time, she sees herself in the mirror looking older each day and she realizes that she no longer matters.

    Faced with that I have no doubt that in the bedroom at night she calls Meg and they agree that she needs to say something really bizarre and off the wall, something that will cause people to talk about her, again.

    I have no doubt that Palin and Meg went over the exact words for her to spew. They probably giggled like high school girls when “death panel” was first mentioned.

    After that, they agreed to toss in “my Downs Syndrome baby” for affect and drama.

    Am I the only one absolutely convinced that Palin knew exactly what she was saying and was hoping for the response her words garnered.

    This wasn’t Palin being dumb, inept, careless or clueless. This was Palin trying get her next attention fix. This was Palin being evil, cold and conniving.

    Barring her shooting Levi or something else “Jerry Springerish,” that all Palin has left in her attention-getting arsenal is making bizarre speeches or statements to the press.


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