Posted by: shannynmoore | September 8, 2009

Palin Details Death Panels From Facebook

This just in from Palin’s facebook as part of her educating the public on “Death Panels.” Why she keeps signing “governor” is beyond me. She quit…or she could just write “gover” since that is equivalent to the amount of time she served the state of Alaska.

Get your waders on.

Senator Reverend Ruben Diaz
Chair, New York Senate Aging Committee
Legislative Office Building
Room 307
Albany, NY 12247

September 8, 2009

RE: H.R. 3200: America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 and Its Impact on Senior Citizens

Dear Senator Diaz,

Thank you for asking me to participate in the New York State Senate Aging Committee’s hearing regarding H.R. 3200, “America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009.” You and I share a commitment to ensuring that our health care system is not “reformed” at the expense of America’s senior citizens.

I have been vocal in my opposition to Section 1233 of H.R.3200, entitled “Advance Care Planning Consultation.”[1] Proponents of the bill have described this section as an entirely voluntary provision that simply increases the information offered to Medicare recipients. That is misleading. The issue is the context in which that information is provided and the coercive effect these consultations will have in that context.

Section 1233 authorizes advanced care planning consultations for senior citizens on Medicare every five years, and more often “if there is a significant change in the health condition of the individual … or upon admission to a skilled nursing facility, a long-term care facility… or a hospice program.”[2] During those consultations, practitioners are to explain “the continuum of end-of-life services and supports available, including palliative care and hospice,” and the government benefits available to pay for such services.[3]

To understand this provision fully, it must be read in context. These consultations are authorized whenever a Medicare recipient’s health changes significantly or when they enter a nursing home, and they are part of a bill whose stated purpose is “to reduce the growth in health care spending.”[4] Is it any wonder that senior citizens might view such consultations as attempts to convince them to help reduce health care costs by accepting minimal end-of-life care? As one commentator has noted, Section 1233 “addresses compassionate goals in disconcerting proximity to fiscal ones…. If it’s all about obviating suffering, emotional or physical, what’s it doing in a measure to ‘bend the curve’ on health-care costs?”[5]

As you stated in your letter to Congressman Henry Waxman of California:

Section 1233 of House Resolution 3200 puts our senior citizens on a slippery slope and may diminish respect for the inherent dignity of each of their lives…. It is egregious to consider that any senior citizen … should be placed in a situation where he or she would feel pressured to save the government money by dying a little sooner than he or she otherwise would, be required to be counseled about the supposed benefits of killing oneself, or be encouraged to sign any end of life directives that they would not otherwise sign.[6]

It is unclear whether section 1233 or a provision like it will remain part of any final health care bill. Regardless of its fate, the larger issue of rationed health care remains.

A great deal of attention was given to my use of the phrase “death panel” in discussing such rationing.[7] Despite repeated attempts by many in the media to dismiss this phrase as a “myth”, its accuracy has been vindicated. In the face of a nationwide public outcry, the Senate Finance Committee agreed to “drop end-of-life provisions from consideration entirely because of the way they could be misinterpreted and implemented incorrectly.”[8] Jim Towey, the former head of the White House Office of Faith-Based Initiatives, then called attention to what’s already occurring at the Department of Veteran’s Affairs, where “government bureaucrats are greasing the slippery slope that can start with cost containment but quickly become a systematic denial of care.”[9] Even Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson, a strong supporter of President Obama, agreed that “if the government says it has to control health care costs and then offers to pay doctors to give advice about hospice care, citizens are not delusional to conclude that the goal is to reduce end-of-life spending.”[10] And of course President Obama has not backed away from his support for the creation of an unelected, largely unaccountable Independent Medicare Advisory Council to help control Medicare costs; he had previously suggested that such a group should guide decisions regarding “that huge driver of cost . . . the chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives….”[11]

The fact is that any group of government bureaucrats that makes decisions affecting life or death is essentially a “death panel.” The work of Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, President Obama’s health policy advisor and the brother of his chief of staff, is particularly disturbing on this score. Dr. Emanuel has written extensively on the topic of rationed health care, describing a “Complete Lives System” for allotting medical care based on “a priority curve on which individuals aged between roughly 15 and 40 years get the most chance, whereas the youngest and oldest people get chances that are attenuated.”[12]

He also has written that some medical services should not be guaranteed to those “who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens…. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia.”[13]

Such ideas are shocking, but they could ultimately be used by government bureacrats to help determine the treatment of our loved ones. We must ensure that human dignity remains at the center of any proposed health care reform. Real health care reform would also follow free market principles, including the encouragement of health savings accounts; would remove the barriers to purchasing health insurance across state lines; and would include tort reform so as to potentially save billions each year in wasteful spending connected to the filing of frivolous lawsuits. H.R. 3200 is not the reform we are looking for.

Thank you for calling attention to this important matter. I look forward to working with you again to ensure that we keep the dignity of our senior citizens foremost in any health care discussion.

Sincerely,

Governor Sarah Palin


Responses

  1. Who wrote this? They obviously didn’t hear that Sarah supported ‘death panels’ before she decided she didn’t like them..

  2. Okay, clearly Sarah did not write this. Personally I am not even sure if she knows what it says. However, there is one part that sounds just like our dear Sarah:

    “Despite repeated attempts by many in the media to dismiss this phrase as a “myth”, its accuracy has been vindicated. In the face of a nationwide public outcry, the Senate Finance Committee agreed to “drop end-of-life provisions from consideration entirely because of the way they could be misinterpreted and implemented incorrectly.”

  3. No way did Palin write that. This is a last ditch effort by the wngnuts to get their message out.

    Palin has no credibility, hiding behind the person behind the curtain behind Facebook, no questions, no interviews.

    Show up and walk the walk Palin – COWARD.

  4. My first thought was, “Who wrote this?” Obviously, it wasn’t written by Sarah. And yes, it is very weird that she signs her name “Governor.” Does Alaska have two governors? That really smacks of being pathological.

  5. She did not, I repeat, did not write that!

    I mean the damn thing almost made sense. Almost.

  6. Somebody needs to clue in the ghostwriter that Sarah quit her day job.

  7. Reading Palin’s blundering semi-authentic thoughts is beyond mind boggling, it actually makes my brain hurt. In typical Palin fashion, she and presumably with massive assistance from her ghost water, they are attempting to water down her vapid word salad.

    If any ‘author’ finds themselves using a waterfall of words just convey their opinions, usually this means the original subject is flawed, such is the case with Palin self perpetuated Death Panels. As noted by several credible sources, there is no Death Panel contained within HB3200, in fact these death panels only exist within the private healthcare companies. But who really cares about a silly thing like facts?

    Seriously who uses the Facebook as their official bully pulpit, most serious politicos use their PAC as the official way to communicate to supporters, but In Palin’s case she is SOOO mavericky that FB is the new way to communicate and having a PAC is just a way to get attention from the FEC.

    She pulled these tactics last fall (while on the StraigHATE Talk Express) and the American people spoke, we wanted change. She needs to get over it and realize she is no longer relevant.

    In fact Palin needs to go away and I mean far far away…she continues to convey her fractious comments which will continue to divide our county on important issues such as Health Care Reform.

  8. Everything in this letter has been fact checked, and debunked by everyone from cable news networks (except Fox, of course), Factcheck.org, and Dr Emanuel and Gene Robinson himself. Why does Sarah continue to embarrass herself with this stuff that is so easily disproven?

    I think other people are right, she has sold her facebook page to corporate interest or Focus on the Family.

  9. I just looked at a public letter from former Governor Howard Dean. He signs it – wait for it . . .

    Howard Dean.

  10. Once again, it is apparent she did not write this letter. And, she did not accept the invitation to appear back there as she would have been expected to speak intelligently on the matter as well as answer questions.

    This woman is the biggest farce on the planet! I wish she’d sign her name as ‘Quitter Palin” vs using the term she no longer has a right to. I betcha she goes down in history as Alaska’s worst governor.

  11. Sarah Palin could not ever read this letter much more write the letter. Sarah, God knows your lying!

  12. I’m in upstate NY, near Albany. Looks like we dodged a bullet. She was invited to come in person but declined.

    • Based on what one of her fansites says, this letter is her “testimony” to the NY State Senate’s Aging Committee.

      So basically they are stating that she testified via email/facebook.

      And this was by far one of my most favorite comments regarding this by one of her loyal fans

      **Isn’t it amazing that a person who was known for her expertise on energy development and independence is now one considered by many observers as one of the most foremost authorities on healthcare reform and Obamacare.**

      I actually spit my tea out of my mouth upon reading that!

  13. Miss Quitty Pants is a narcissist, so being surprised at her using a title is a non issue. So is wishing she would do anything sane, intelligent or above board. The media is also the problem here – it is ridiculous that MS media reported anything from FB by Quitty Pants when there was no confirmation that the twit wrote anything. They didn’t question the authorship, which is astoundingly bad since she is a known habitual liar.

    The current trends in the press aren’t going to change unless we force them to, and it’s a long chain of viewers, sponsors, thrill seekers, greedy publishers – it seems like a daunting task to force accountability but I think it’s absolutely necessary that we do so.

    As our aging, well trained and responsible journalists leave us for the big newspaper in the sky we are losing much more than we gain with newbies coming up through the ranks – fearful to rock the boat or lose their jobs, even if they are classically trained in investigative journalism.

  14. Shannyn, what people need to do to expose her bullshit is put this letter side by side with one of her quitter speeches, either the BS in back of her house on the Lake or the final one. And then make it go viral, because the ones who can read know she didn’t produce this.

  15. I don’t think SP wrote all those words.

    One point, the letter stated, “then called attention to what’s already occurring at the Department of Veteran’s Affairs, where ‘government bureaucrats are greasing the slippery slope that can start with cost containment but quickly become a systematic denial of care.’”

    Wasn’t that what she did when those 254 aged or disabled Alaskans died under her watch from lack of state-run Medicare/Medicaid services? Those eight wrongful death lawsuits will cost somebody. Why didn’t she tell Alaska’s story?

    http://www.adn.com/life/health/story/864670.html

    Thanks, Shannyn, for all your good work!

  16. She’s trying to take the attention away from Barack Obama’s talks and Levi’s article. And of course she did not write this. She isn’t articulate and she doesn’t understand complex issues. It’s a joke! Is she going to run for president from Facebook? Never doing a real interview or entering into an intelligent debate? That is why no one takes her seriously except for the wingnuts.

  17. I agree….the Quitter Queen DID NOT write this! Who does she think she is fooling? I dare her to go into a group of people and talk about what she supposedly wrote. I guarantee you she could not answer one thing about it. “In what respect, Charlie”?

    And…….Scarah………did you forget you are no longer our Governor? You don’t own that title anymore. Nor did you own it while in office. You skipped out at noon and went home to watch wedding shows and have your kids run for Crunchwrap Supreme tacos for crying’ out loud. Just take your money from your book and Go Away Please!

  18. Guffaw ….. whatever happened to “I don’t need a title”? Honestly, can’t imagine that even the hard-core Palin wingnuts believe that she actually wrote this, much less read it, or understands it.

  19. Totally agree – she didn’t write it, but I expect Bill Kristol or another of Murdoch’s minions did.

    The links for those articles that deal with her initially signing the bill in Alaska for “death panels”, as well as the Medicare scandal, should be sent to the same address where she responded.

    Also, include all the debunking done by reputable sources.

    She is just adding to the madness and divisiveness.

  20. I am really beginning to hate her. This is obviously not written by SP, but does convey her “beliefs”, “thoughts” “intentions”, whatever. I cannot believe that people listen to and believe anything she says! I may end up deciding to leave this country yet, depending on what the future holds. Based on the impact this inexperienced, unskilled, unintelligent, uninformed, attention-addict has had on something as important as national health care reform, I don’t see things getting better.😦

  21. Nope, she didn’t write it. If she were asked tomorrow what it contained, she couldn’t tell you!
    This narcisstic b***h has to go!

  22. We’re supposed to believe that “Quitter Governor” Sarah knows what a bibliography is?

    Yeah, right!

    The inclusion of words of more than three syllables are also a dead giveaway that Palin didn’t write this. Also too, she didn’t mention Special! Needs! She always mentions special needs, because Trig is, you know. (P.S, don’t forget: Special needs.)

    If there’s one thing I know for sure after listening to Ms. Gallon Of Crazy yammer mindlessly all last fall, it’s that Sarah Palin didn’t write this. She didn’t write the outline. She didn’t look up the references (that involves reading, duh!). She didn’t do anything but take out her checkbook and write a check so someone else could try and make her look relevant to…something. Whatever.

    Thanks for the laugh of the day!

  23. First and foremost…Sarah Palin is no longer Gov of Alaksa. Secondly she did not right that letter. As a matter of fact I think many of the words she has claimed to speak since QUITTING on Alaskans. Why can American Political not come together on anything at all? Of course unless it involves the killing of 3000 Americans as in 9-11 then they can come togethewr quickly for things like the PATRIOT ACT, THE TSA, and other ways to errode our civil rights and disimate of Constitution. This is just the sad truth. To have leader of a politcal party come forward and be outraged by a Black President addressing our school kids nation wide is again just a sad, sad, day in America.

  24. “Dr. Emanuel has written extensively on the topic of rationed health care, describing a “Complete Lives System”

    Which was a piece of theoretical philosophy… not a practical mandate…taken out of context….this appears damning, put back into it’s original context it is interesting…and provocative…

    The ghost writer Palin is now employing needs to do better, although we are now relieved of the “word salad” we are still haunted by mis-information through out of context “quotes”…

    P.U. Palin and Company… Peeeeuuuuuwwww

  25. “gover” Sarah Palin…it’s perfect and, oh, so clever!

  26. She still hasn’t been seen in Public.

  27. “Governor”? WTF?

  28. Look, this Junk from SP and her likes is all about
    “Noise” there putting out noise to try stall or kill
    health care reform in this country ! “Period”

    Dont loose focus.

    Priority 1 “The Public Option” Afforadable health care for all us citizens.

    Remember in “Chaos” there is opportunity for control. Dont buy into the Palin BS or the K-Street
    BS.

    Keep the eye on the ball !!!

    Priority 1 “The Public Option” Afforadable health care for all us citizens.

    JC

  29. […] Much of the fervor has been whipped up by our own former Governor, Sarah Palin, who as recently as today was on Facebook defending her errant “death panel” claims and worries about Government […]

  30. Mrs. Palin must be told that she is no longer allowed to use the title of “Governor”. She quit during her first term saying that she does not need a title. Having not served out the term that she swore an oath to serve, she relinquished all rights to being called Governor. She walked away from her responsibilities and now the people of Alaska should demand that she be forbidden from referring to herself as Governor Sarah Palin.

  31. Only Sarah Palin and her crazy ass, blind, ignorant, fanatic followers would take end of life consultations and turn them into death panels.
    Does she actually believe her own bullsh*t?
    Or does she not?
    I cannot imagine being in her head. Nightmares abound.
    I wonder if Murdoch has set her up with a psychiatrist yet? He must be curious as to how she thinks so that he can be her puppet master. It would give him another advantage over her, especially on how to manipulate a crazy lizard brain like hers. We all know how crazy Beck is, but he’s easier to figure out.
    I would love to be a fly on the wall in an office with Palin and her shrink.
    After all, if she’s going to be living and working in NYC (for BIG bucks, mind you) she’ll have to at least pretend she’s one of them. And they all have a therapist.

  32. I believe “governor” and “president” and “secretary” are all titles that follow you past the office.
    But most refer to them as “former” or “disgraced” or “superficial quitters”….

    I love how the crazies on the Right just keep it coming. The President’s speech to the kids where he was going to “indoctrinate” them….Laughable!
    These same parents who hate goverment and their president dropped their kids off at public schools, or put them on a bus to attend a goverment-supported educational system….
    Does anyone else see the hypocrisy in that arguement?????

  33. It just seems that a person who does not complete their term (just ’cause they don’t feel like it) should not be allowed to carry the title. Eliot Spitzer is now mainly referred to as former governor Eliot Spitzer or just Eliot Spitzer, as is Blagojevich.

    CNN is now giving press to Palin’s op-ed in the WSJ. The piece was obviously written by someone else but little miss quitty pants still gets credit for the complete sentences (the content is horrible but at least it’s written in English and not Palinese). I would love to see her ghost writer exposed therefore exposing Palin for the fraud that she is. Anyone know a good mole to route out the Palin rat?

  34. I found it interesting that Section 1233 was selectively quoted.

    Although I don’t have the minutiae of the bill memorized I believe it authorizes compensation for end-of-life consultations — this is a subtle language difference with radically different implications for the debate.

    In providing compensation it is basically paying for a physician’s time to engage in a discussion in such situations in much the same way it pays them for their cognitive services in other areas of health care.

    Regardless of whether one agrees with the provision it shouldn’t be presented in a deceitful manner as it has in SP’s letter.

  35. Calling herself govenor is in bad taste. It would be an honorific used by others who hold her in high regard. (Is that possible?) It is not something bestowed on oneself, and to do so is considered tacky.

  36. Sarah Who?

  37. That the New York State Senate invited her to talk about her death panel idea was so insulting. What were they thinking? Obviously they weren’t. Also, I wanted to comment regarding President Obama’s speech last night, Excellent it was. Commentators have said that the President was targeting palin when he talked about death panels, but lets not forget that Grassley, Virginia Rice, Brown (sorry can’t remember where he is from) Vitter, Cantor and a host of others also used this phrase and encouraged this lie. Although it is easy to blame palin for all of this, she sure wasn’t alone. Excellent work Shannyn! Thank you so much!

  38. It was not ‘The New York Senate” but Ruben Diaz — one of the more obnoxiously eccentric State Senators we NYDemocrats are cursed with. (The Senate has been so much a ‘Republican Party Preserve” for so long that some state leaders will support anyone who is likely to put a ‘D’ after his name, and Diaz has a strong ‘ethnic base’ that keeps on voting for him. Don’t know why the Republicans keep electing State Senators, since the party is totally inept and far right for NY.)

    Diaz is, among other things, perhaps the noisiest homophobe in the Legislature, and was somehow involved in the follies that you may have read about, which included Senators switching parties, questions about changing the leadership, and other absurdities.

    On another topic, any chance, Shannyn, that you can push KO or Rachel into covering the ADN story about the horrors in “Palincare’?

    • Thanks for the explanation Prup. I moved from NYS 5 years ago and am not up to date on their latest stupidity.

      Also, Great Idea about Keith and Rachel. What a great interview that would be. I really enjoy hearing you talk Shannyn.


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